Buying China Phones – The Pits And The Falls

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Image by Xuan Zheng”

China phones have become quite popular in the last year or so. The advent of $150 quad-core smartphones really opened the eyes of many people. Now we have 8-core MTK6592 phones released and LTE/4G on the horizon. A while back, I did a series on China brands vs popular name brands. This won’t be so much about comparing the two. It’s more about a few of the hurdles to consider before becoming a proud China mobile owner.

The quality of Chinese mobiles has risen substantially since 2012. With companies like Amoi and Jiayu stepping up to the plate and making quality phones at an excellent price. In 2013 we saw up and comers iOcean and iNew take a stab at the Western market. Particularly iOcean with their 900MHz WCDMA European phone. Xiaomi just recently forayed into MTK land with their MT6582 European Red Rice Hongmi.

China phone Frequencies

So what’s next for these guys? A huge step would be producing phones with penta-band or at least quad-band WCDMA. News flash for any China brands that may have stumbled across Gizbeat – it’s 2014, let’s make phones that work everywhere in the world. Inexcusably, THL has released two beautiful phones – the THL T100S and THL T200, with only dual-band GSM. This flies beyond all comprehension, as even my second hand Nokia from 10 years back has quad-band GSM. That a $300 phone in 2014 is released with only dual-band GSM seems almost funny.

Chinese brands certainly have a bit to learn about thinking beyond their own country. I’m sure plenty of you have heard me talk about this enough, so I’ll leave it alone for now, but it certainly still surprises me they haven’t taken the step of releasing all phones with 850/900/1900/2100 WCDMA.

China phone QC / quality control

The next thing is quality control. Generally speaking, with the better known China brands, the hardware is as good, or nearly as good quality wise as the big brand counterparts, but if these guys want to enter the international market, they need to have international quality control standards. The name of the game is dough, and they work on a very thin margin of profit. However, this doesn’t excuse letting every phone out the door. Quality testing needs to be done on each and every unit. If it costs an extra $5 per phone to have this done. Fine, let’s do it.

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Image by Dainis Matisons

The other side of this, is that Samsung and HTC and other well known brands also release ‘duds’, but it’s less often than with China brands, and you hear about it less often, because owners of these major brands with issues can go a couple kilo up the road and swap them out.

China phone shops

The last thing we’ll discuss is the shops who cater to international customers. Beyond the frequency issues, beyond quality control, by far the biggest problem with China brands for us, is the shops who are selling them. The people we’re dealing directly with. Often they have no clue about the products they’re selling. Even common terms such as ‘digitizer’ are completely unknown to them. Maybe you’d expect the layman wouldn’t know the term, but you’d think the sales and support teams would.

I recall telling a shop that the lights had ceased to work in the capacitive touch keys. The reply from shop support was ‘you too many app, factory reset’. While factory reset is possibly the answer to some problems, it’s definitely not the correct answer to the capacitive touch key lights not working.

Their English is often terrible as well, and many shops support have no business working with English speaking customers. Even the most basic phrases and explanations often go misunderstood. This isn’t some snooty egotistical position I’m taking. I’ve been living abroad for 7 years and speak the native language horribly for living here so long, but I don’t work in a tech support job speaking this country’s language either.

They also will do their damnedest to keep the phone from being shipped back for repair. They often will request pictures or videos of the problem. This last bit is understandable. Often the problem is due to some type of user error or misunderstanding, and it needs to be quite sure that the phone has a hardware defect before you waste your own time and money shipping back the product.

In closing

If you’re new to China phones, you may be wondering why we buy China phones if there’s often issues with frequency support, quality control and customer service.

Beyond the fact that we’re getting very good phones for literally hundreds of dollars less than if we’d purchased LG, Samsung, HTC or iPhone – we just love it. Even with some of the frustrations that can come with China mobiles, there are dedicated, often cultish communities based around some of these China models and China brands.

With many of the problems also bring about learning. At the time of the issue, it’s often frustrating, but after the issue has been solved, or even if it hasn’t, we still have come through the situation with far more knowledge about Android and smart phones.

It’s also important to reiterate that many of the hardware issues with China mobiles exist with the Big Boy Brands as well. It’s just that it’s far easier to go down the street and swap it out than it is with dealing with warranty support from China. The important thing here is that when you absolutely know it’s a hardware defect, that you’re dealing with a shop who will honor the warranty.

If I’ve made it sound like some terrible hell to go through, well it can be, but if you choose the right shop and choose the right model, it can considerably lessen the chance of a frustrating situation. I’d say the vast majority of China mobile users are more than happy with their purchase and don’t end up with any problems at all, or if they do have some problems, they’re generally of minor consideration, or problems that are ironed out in firmware updates.

I’ll be writing a follow-up to this post within the next couple days. Please add your comments or points regarding this post, or points you’d like me to touch upon in the follow-up.

Comments

6 responses to “Buying China Phones – The Pits And The Falls”

  1. zaikatanox Avatar
    zaikatanox

    Any reason a why you would not consider OPPO, Xiaomi, Meizu or Huawei a China brand? A lot of their phones actually support US 3G frequencies.

    1. Damian Parsons Avatar
      Damian Parsons

      Generally when I say China brand, I’m referring to the sub $300 MTK SoC China phones. There are a couple higher priced Qualcomm models of the brands you mentioned which offer quad/penta WCDMA, but in comparison to the hundreds of MTK SoC models, it’s an extremely low number of models, and none with MTK SoC. An interesting option for Americans is the Huawei P6, but this is a $300+ phone. What we’re looking for is BUDGET phones. That’s $150-250 with quad-band / penta-band WCDMA. The frustration here is that there are SO many models, yet a fraction of these have support for the Americas, and none that have MTK SoC.

      1. zaikatanox Avatar
        zaikatanox

        I see. I agree that sub-300 would be pretty tough, and I don’t even think you can easily find a Huawei P6 for less than 300 dollars in the West. Another choice would be Xiaomi Mi2S, which you can get for less than 300, obviously assuming you can find it to begin with (even in China).

        If you want to restrict it even further to models with only MediaTek SoC, then the choice becomes even more limited (or, as you said, none; though one may argue that MediaTek is not really a [mainland] Chinese company, its presence is mostly felt in mainland China, even moreso than several mainland chip makers such as Rockchip or HiSilicon).

        1. Damian Parsons Avatar
          Damian Parsons

          Yes, MTK is Taiwan based, but many of the brands which use MTK SoC are based on the mainland.

          Yes, if looking at non-MTK phones in the $300+ range, there are a few options, but the pickings are very slim.

          I’m not looking to buy a phone for myself. I haven’t lived or been to America for many years now. The part of the post we’ve been referring to is about the general state of China brands and compatibility with frequencies in the Americas.

    2. TJ Avatar
      TJ

      Which Meizu phones have North American 3G frequencies? Xiaomi, 2A and Hongami were not compatible also

  2. B Avatar
    B

    A (complete) repost….
    I agree with your thread! :-)
    However, I want to try to highlight another major pitfall of Chinese devices which is connected to the spread of the devices outside China.
    It is simply that that although they can work well enough, it is often up to the customer (if they have the ability) to sort the bugs. Unfortunately when a customer doesn’t have the interest/ability to tinker with their device then they may well have to endure issues, frustrations and/or a significantly compromised device.
    I know all manufacturers have their problems, they get it wrong. However, the issue isn’t if a device is perfect, rather, as with all devices, the question is how imperfect it is?

    I suggest we look at the question of quality as the following 3 questions.
    1) What are the faults? How many faults are there and how serious are they?
    2) What is the frequency that the fault(s) occur? This is relevant both within a product line and between product lines?
    3) What does the organization do about the faults?

    So, pretend a Chinese manufacturer produces a product that has a number of troublesome faults like low microphone sensitivity, bad WIFI strength, poor GPS accuracy and a lack of volume (loudness) from the alert functions (phone text etc).
    Question 1. There are 4 faults that are not serious but will cause frustrations if the user wants to rely on the relevant functions.
    Question 2. The manufacturers forums steadily fill with posts revealing that the faults are widespread within a product line. Then posts about the same faults are posted in a new products threads.
    Question 3. When we can search the forums for the organizations responses, we are wanting to know if they trying to fix the issue(s)? Do we see little to no responses from the manufacturer’s representatives, do they actually care? Also, if the faults are reproduced in new models then we can deduce that they are not overly concerned.

    My point is that for a majority of customers the device should not need to rooted, flashed, disassembled… For example, customers may consider it unreasonable that they have to buy another battery and external charger because the manufacturer didn’t get the charging system sorted.

    Take care :-)

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